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	<title>Comments on: Clark Cowden Quotes Eddie Gibbs on The State of Christendom</title>
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	<description>Welcome. I&#039;m a husband, a father, an ordained minister, and a postmodern pilgrim. You can check out some of the projects I&#039;m involved with below. In this space I mostly write about the intersections of Christianity and culture.</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Coker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a good point Tom, so let me clarify a bit. I didn&#039;t mean that statement as a classic either/or in the sense that leaders must choose one or the other, I meant it as a generalization - and generalizations certainly exclude shades of grey. Generally, at this stage in the conversation, I think Christian leaders do fall into one or the other of these categories. However, I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right that there are many who still haven&#039;t decided where they stand, and it may very well be that this muddled middle constitutes a large percentage - perhaps even the majority. That&#039;s not my intuitive sense, but I have no data on the matter so I may very well be wrong.

Thanks for your comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good point Tom, so let me clarify a bit. I didn&#8217;t mean that statement as a classic either/or in the sense that leaders must choose one or the other, I meant it as a generalization &#8211; and generalizations certainly exclude shades of grey. Generally, at this stage in the conversation, I think Christian leaders do fall into one or the other of these categories. However, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right that there are many who still haven&#8217;t decided where they stand, and it may very well be that this muddled middle constitutes a large percentage &#8211; perhaps even the majority. That&#8217;s not my intuitive sense, but I have no data on the matter so I may very well be wrong.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Fay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,
You have an either or assumption: 

&quot;you either agree wholeheartedly and are busy critiquing the old models in order to discern a way forward, or you deny it and are busy defending the old models in order to protect the current paradigm.&quot;

But what if there is a third assumption and neither of the two above are true.  That is my belief and I think you should broaden your viewpoint more.  If you want, I will send you a more detailed explanation.  Or, think about it yourself.

God bless,
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,<br />
You have an either or assumption: </p>
<p>&#8220;you either agree wholeheartedly and are busy critiquing the old models in order to discern a way forward, or you deny it and are busy defending the old models in order to protect the current paradigm.&#8221;</p>
<p>But what if there is a third assumption and neither of the two above are true.  That is my belief and I think you should broaden your viewpoint more.  If you want, I will send you a more detailed explanation.  Or, think about it yourself.</p>
<p>God bless,<br />
Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Pastoralia » Clark Cowden Quotes Eddie Gibbs on The State of Christendom -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 07:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jason Coker</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/books/clark-cowden-quotes-eddie-gibbs-on-the-state-of-christendom/comment-page-1#comment-568</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed he does. 

Glad you like it! It&#039;s going on a t-shirt which I plant to wear to Comic-con this year : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed he does. </p>
<p>Glad you like it! It&#8217;s going on a t-shirt which I plant to wear to Comic-con this year : )</p>
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		<title>By: j evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>j evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for giving Clark props. He deserves it. Love the new design!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for giving Clark props. He deserves it. Love the new design!</p>
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