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	<description>Welcome. I&#039;m a husband, a father, an ordained minister, and a postmodern pilgrim. You can check out some of the projects I&#039;m involved with below. In this space I mostly write about the intersections of Christianity and culture.</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Coker</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/dear-preacher/comment-page-1#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi M,

Thanks for the very kind words. Your question, &quot;What does a Biblical proclamation look like in America in 2010?&quot; is partly what prompted this post. I&#039;m not at all happy with what much of preaching has become, either campy, therapeutic, controlling, or entertaining, but, at the same time, I&#039;m deeply uncomfortable with the tendency in Emerging circles to do away with it. Frankly, I don&#039;t know the answer (although, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/907/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I like what David Fitch has to say about it&lt;/a&gt;) - it&#039;s something I struggle with quite a bit because my gift mix is heavily tilted toward preaching and hopefully that tension is evident in the post. But I will say this: it&#039;s an important topic for me and one I will certainly be exploring on here again in the future. 

Thanks again for the comment!</description>
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<p>Thanks for the very kind words. Your question, &#8220;What does a Biblical proclamation look like in America in 2010?&#8221; is partly what prompted this post. I&#8217;m not at all happy with what much of preaching has become, either campy, therapeutic, controlling, or entertaining, but, at the same time, I&#8217;m deeply uncomfortable with the tendency in Emerging circles to do away with it. Frankly, I don&#8217;t know the answer (although, <a href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/907/" rel="nofollow">I like what David Fitch has to say about it</a>) &#8211; it&#8217;s something I struggle with quite a bit because my gift mix is heavily tilted toward preaching and hopefully that tension is evident in the post. But I will say this: it&#8217;s an important topic for me and one I will certainly be exploring on here again in the future. </p>
<p>Thanks again for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: almost an M</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/dear-preacher/comment-page-1#comment-1302</link>
		<dc:creator>almost an M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, Yet another great post. I have really enjoyed reading your stuff since I stumbled onto your site a couple months ago. Really enjoyed the satire in this post.  For me, this post begs a question I have been mulling over for some time...what does a Biblical proclamation look like in America in 2010? How much of what is normal today comes from history and cultural norms formed over the last 150+ years in the West? Perhaps a future post for you could be the job description, interview process, or annual evaluation of a position and function of &quot;preacher&quot; that is consistent with Scripture? Maybe you won&#039;t choose to take this on, but I am hopeful.
-almost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, Yet another great post. I have really enjoyed reading your stuff since I stumbled onto your site a couple months ago. Really enjoyed the satire in this post.  For me, this post begs a question I have been mulling over for some time&#8230;what does a Biblical proclamation look like in America in 2010? How much of what is normal today comes from history and cultural norms formed over the last 150+ years in the West? Perhaps a future post for you could be the job description, interview process, or annual evaluation of a position and function of &#8220;preacher&#8221; that is consistent with Scripture? Maybe you won&#8217;t choose to take this on, but I am hopeful.<br />
-almost</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Coker</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/dear-preacher/comment-page-1#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary - Hey, great to have you here! I&#039;ll definitely check out the site. Hope things are going well for you in your ministry. Blessings and peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary &#8211; Hey, great to have you here! I&#8217;ll definitely check out the site. Hope things are going well for you in your ministry. Blessings and peace!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Coker</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/dear-preacher/comment-page-1#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew - You make some excellent points Andrew. My little mock letter definitely assumes the best of intentions on the part of the preacher, but I agree there may be many preachers who are laboring under a task for which they&#039;re not gifted, and a few (hopefully) who may be tolerating a task for which they&#039;re not passionate. Thanks for pitching in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &#8211; You make some excellent points Andrew. My little mock letter definitely assumes the best of intentions on the part of the preacher, but I agree there may be many preachers who are laboring under a task for which they&#8217;re not gifted, and a few (hopefully) who may be tolerating a task for which they&#8217;re not passionate. Thanks for pitching in!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Coker</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/dear-preacher/comment-page-1#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - It&#039;s funny that you mention John Wesley, because his life and ministry has been the catalyst for my thinking on this subject (and my thinking on a postmodern ecclesiology as well). I think his example somehow represents both the best of public &quot;preaching&quot; AND the worst of that caricature we tend to mentally conjure up when we think of street preachers.

Mom &amp; Julie - There are still lots of traveling preachers today...some go from church to church as special speakers (particularly in pentecostal traditions, wherein they&#039;re typically &quot;revivalists&quot;)or they do the Christian conference circuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; It&#8217;s funny that you mention John Wesley, because his life and ministry has been the catalyst for my thinking on this subject (and my thinking on a postmodern ecclesiology as well). I think his example somehow represents both the best of public &#8220;preaching&#8221; AND the worst of that caricature we tend to mentally conjure up when we think of street preachers.</p>
<p>Mom &amp; Julie &#8211; There are still lots of traveling preachers today&#8230;some go from church to church as special speakers (particularly in pentecostal traditions, wherein they&#8217;re typically &#8220;revivalists&#8221;)or they do the Christian conference circuit.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traveling preachers.  I remember hearing about them in school.  The thing was though, back then (as you know), not every town had a regular pastor for their church.  I know that was true of my own grandmother who grew up in a West Virginia holler.  Not to mention, in the 19th century, some towns didn&#039;t have a church at all.  A meeting place, with a &quot;make shift&quot; pastor yes, but not always some building deemed as a church.  Especially out there in Cali. with the gold rush going on out there.  I&#039;m thinking there weren&#039;t any churches close by to the miners camp.:-)  (of course, with there minds on finding gold, gold, gold all the time, I wonder how many miners would have cared about going to church).

Since there are so many churches around today.    How much of a need do we even HAVE for traveling preachers these days?  I don&#039;t see a need for them in this country (missionaries - yes.  But that&#039;s another point) but who knows - maybe they still exist somewhere out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traveling preachers.  I remember hearing about them in school.  The thing was though, back then (as you know), not every town had a regular pastor for their church.  I know that was true of my own grandmother who grew up in a West Virginia holler.  Not to mention, in the 19th century, some towns didn&#8217;t have a church at all.  A meeting place, with a &#8220;make shift&#8221; pastor yes, but not always some building deemed as a church.  Especially out there in Cali. with the gold rush going on out there.  I&#8217;m thinking there weren&#8217;t any churches close by to the miners camp.:-)  (of course, with there minds on finding gold, gold, gold all the time, I wonder how many miners would have cared about going to church).</p>
<p>Since there are so many churches around today.    How much of a need do we even HAVE for traveling preachers these days?  I don&#8217;t see a need for them in this country (missionaries &#8211; yes.  But that&#8217;s another point) but who knows &#8211; maybe they still exist somewhere out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my ancestry we have what was called &quot;traveling preachers&quot;, men with sometimes their wives traveling around the country and preaching. These preachers were both on my fathers side and also on my Father&#039;s mothers side. I was told growing up that my father&#039;s mothers parents were killed in an accident while traveling around the country preaching the gospel. They left behind 4 kids, one of which was my grandmother. Do &quot;Traveling Preachers&quot; even exist any more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my ancestry we have what was called &#8220;traveling preachers&#8221;, men with sometimes their wives traveling around the country and preaching. These preachers were both on my fathers side and also on my Father&#8217;s mothers side. I was told growing up that my father&#8217;s mothers parents were killed in an accident while traveling around the country preaching the gospel. They left behind 4 kids, one of which was my grandmother. Do &#8220;Traveling Preachers&#8221; even exist any more?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Hornsby</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/dear-preacher/comment-page-1#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Hornsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jason, very proud of you, Your Mom sent me this and I enjoyed it! We are very busy right now in the Inland Empire bringing the denominations together to resourse eachother and pull our strengths to really make a difference for God&#039;s Kingdom
check out our Conference we are putting on this Oct 9&amp;10
www.kingdomglobal.com/first Love to have you attend if your in the area, bring the Old Guy &quot; Dave&quot; and your lovely mother :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jason, very proud of you, Your Mom sent me this and I enjoyed it! We are very busy right now in the Inland Empire bringing the denominations together to resourse eachother and pull our strengths to really make a difference for God&#8217;s Kingdom<br />
check out our Conference we are putting on this Oct 9&amp;10<br />
<a href="http://www.kingdomglobal.com/first" rel="nofollow">http://www.kingdomglobal.com/first</a> Love to have you attend if your in the area, bring the Old Guy &#8221; Dave&#8221; and your lovely mother <img src='http://pastoralia.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/dear-preacher/comment-page-1#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  I think there are lots of reasons why preaching has become irrelevant in to the &quot;public.&quot;  I get the feeling these days that people have figured out that much preaching and teaching is really a smoke screen for something else.  I just blogged about what it means to have integrity in ministry and I think that  - either intentionally or not - a lot of preaching is incredibly manipulative and, therefore, lacking in integrity.

Moreover, I&#039;m not sure that most preachers are really &quot;gifted, trained, and compelled to be a herald for the gospel.&quot;  I can&#039;t tell you how many pastors I&#039;ve met for whom the ministry is just another career choice.  There was one particular fellow I met at divinity school who told me he applied to medical school, law school and divinity school.  The med. school didn&#039;t accept him, the law school didn&#039;t give him enough money, the divinity school (unfortunately) gave him a full scholarship and a living stipend.  Guess where he ended up?

Then again, maybe the problem isn&#039;t that there aren&#039;t enough truly &quot;gifted&quot; pastors but that there are too many &quot;professional&quot; pastors and not enough people exercising the gifts they&#039;ve been given (everybody is gifted by God for service to the Kingdom, right?).

Again, great post!

A.T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I think there are lots of reasons why preaching has become irrelevant in to the &#8220;public.&#8221;  I get the feeling these days that people have figured out that much preaching and teaching is really a smoke screen for something else.  I just blogged about what it means to have integrity in ministry and I think that  &#8211; either intentionally or not &#8211; a lot of preaching is incredibly manipulative and, therefore, lacking in integrity.</p>
<p>Moreover, I&#8217;m not sure that most preachers are really &#8220;gifted, trained, and compelled to be a herald for the gospel.&#8221;  I can&#8217;t tell you how many pastors I&#8217;ve met for whom the ministry is just another career choice.  There was one particular fellow I met at divinity school who told me he applied to medical school, law school and divinity school.  The med. school didn&#8217;t accept him, the law school didn&#8217;t give him enough money, the divinity school (unfortunately) gave him a full scholarship and a living stipend.  Guess where he ended up?</p>
<p>Then again, maybe the problem isn&#8217;t that there aren&#8217;t enough truly &#8220;gifted&#8221; pastors but that there are too many &#8220;professional&#8221; pastors and not enough people exercising the gifts they&#8217;ve been given (everybody is gifted by God for service to the Kingdom, right?).</p>
<p>Again, great post!</p>
<p>A.T.</p>
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		<title>By: steven hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought of a missional preaching in the public sphere, although it&#039;s old-school, so i still wonder what creative missional preaching in the public sphere can look like.

while i was visiting friends in the UK, they took me to a pub, and over in one corner they had a small step-stool with a plaque on it.  the plaque read something to the effect that John Wesley had preached from here in this pub - that was a public community gathering place.  this, then is what i think of when i think of truly missional preaching in the public sphere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought of a missional preaching in the public sphere, although it&#8217;s old-school, so i still wonder what creative missional preaching in the public sphere can look like.</p>
<p>while i was visiting friends in the UK, they took me to a pub, and over in one corner they had a small step-stool with a plaque on it.  the plaque read something to the effect that John Wesley had preached from here in this pub &#8211; that was a public community gathering place.  this, then is what i think of when i think of truly missional preaching in the public sphere&#8230;</p>
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