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	<title>Comments on: Unbecoming Buzz Agents For Christ</title>
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	<description>Welcome. I&#039;m a husband, a father, an ordained minister, and a postmodern pilgrim. You can check out some of the projects I&#039;m involved with below. In this space I mostly write about the intersections of Christianity and culture.</description>
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		<title>By: practicinghuman</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/unbecoming-buzz-agents-for-christ/comment-page-1#comment-1904</link>
		<dc:creator>practicinghuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s much easier to package the Gospel in a soundbyte or two than it is to live lives fully surrendered to Christ.  We want so badly to avoid anything that requires pain and sacrifice.  If we want to avoid those two things, then we should seriously avoid the Gospel.  &quot;Take up your cross and follow Me&quot; doesn&#039;t exactly sound like the best news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s much easier to package the Gospel in a soundbyte or two than it is to live lives fully surrendered to Christ.  We want so badly to avoid anything that requires pain and sacrifice.  If we want to avoid those two things, then we should seriously avoid the Gospel.  &#8220;Take up your cross and follow Me&#8221; doesn&#8217;t exactly sound like the best news.</p>
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		<title>By: Pastoralia &#187; What We Can (un)Learn From The Apple Tablet</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/unbecoming-buzz-agents-for-christ/comment-page-1#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastoralia &#187; What We Can (un)Learn From The Apple Tablet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (re)Telling Stories: It would be tempting to simply attribute Apple&#8217;s success to marketing magic. Steve Jobs&#8217; company has always been famous for its compelling advertising, but I think [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (re)Telling Stories: It would be tempting to simply attribute Apple&#8217;s success to marketing magic. Steve Jobs&#8217; company has always been famous for its compelling advertising, but I think [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Paul</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/unbecoming-buzz-agents-for-christ/comment-page-1#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>James Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this helpful post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this helpful post!</p>
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		<title>By: Why Evangelism Gives Us the Creeps — Ben Sternke</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/unbecoming-buzz-agents-for-christ/comment-page-1#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Evangelism Gives Us the Creeps — Ben Sternke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Coker diagnosed the problem very perceptively in a post from this past summer called &#8220;Unbecoming Buzz Agents For Christ.&#8221; He says the way evangelism has been done is essentially the same way as deceptive [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Coker diagnosed the problem very perceptively in a post from this past summer called &#8220;Unbecoming Buzz Agents For Christ.&#8221; He says the way evangelism has been done is essentially the same way as deceptive [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Coker</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/unbecoming-buzz-agents-for-christ/comment-page-1#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jody, great to hear from you! I&#039;ll write you back at your email address. We&#039;d love to hear how the family is doing these days...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jody, great to hear from you! I&#8217;ll write you back at your email address. We&#8217;d love to hear how the family is doing these days&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jody haag</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/unbecoming-buzz-agents-for-christ/comment-page-1#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>jody haag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jason and Janelle. How are things? I recieved an e-mail a while ago about helping support your mission. [private info edited out] This is totally God working here because I am still one who shys away from the computer and here I am on you site! Amazing to me really. Hope all is good. Jody</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jason and Janelle. How are things? I recieved an e-mail a while ago about helping support your mission. [private info edited out] This is totally God working here because I am still one who shys away from the computer and here I am on you site! Amazing to me really. Hope all is good. Jody</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Coker</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/unbecoming-buzz-agents-for-christ/comment-page-1#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great example of how entertainment technology can isolate us Steve! I love technology, of course, and clearly am not afraid to use it - but I&#039;m very concerned that the &quot;medium is the message&quot; and that as a result we&#039;re becoming the most connected and loneliest people in history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great example of how entertainment technology can isolate us Steve! I love technology, of course, and clearly am not afraid to use it &#8211; but I&#8217;m very concerned that the &#8220;medium is the message&#8221; and that as a result we&#8217;re becoming the most connected and loneliest people in history.</p>
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		<title>By: steven hamilton</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/unbecoming-buzz-agents-for-christ/comment-page-1#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>steven hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a significant message that needs to be heard...that we are not called to become consumers-for-Christ nor marketing-agents-for-Christ, but called to be real and be in real relationships with others...and really love one another.

some of my friends are now co-dependent with their facebook or Twitter interface and the &quot;buzz&quot; from &quot;facebook friends&quot; and their buzz back.  literally, my wife and i met an old friend at this great pub in baltimore a while back, and i left the bar to go to the restroom, and there was a couple in the back sitting at a table waiting for their food and they were not interacting, but both had their attention on their iPhones, and i say clearly when i went back by their table (and yes, they were still not interacting with each other) the girl was on facebook...and probably the guy too.  i wanted to interrupt, introduce them to one another...anyway, thanks for that jason...good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a significant message that needs to be heard&#8230;that we are not called to become consumers-for-Christ nor marketing-agents-for-Christ, but called to be real and be in real relationships with others&#8230;and really love one another.</p>
<p>some of my friends are now co-dependent with their facebook or Twitter interface and the &#8220;buzz&#8221; from &#8220;facebook friends&#8221; and their buzz back.  literally, my wife and i met an old friend at this great pub in baltimore a while back, and i left the bar to go to the restroom, and there was a couple in the back sitting at a table waiting for their food and they were not interacting, but both had their attention on their iPhones, and i say clearly when i went back by their table (and yes, they were still not interacting with each other) the girl was on facebook&#8230;and probably the guy too.  i wanted to interrupt, introduce them to one another&#8230;anyway, thanks for that jason&#8230;good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/unbecoming-buzz-agents-for-christ/comment-page-1#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, just wait until they grow up and become adults........the stardust from your eyes begins to fade:)

Just kidding Jason..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, just wait until they grow up and become adults&#8230;&#8230;..the stardust from your eyes begins to fade:)</p>
<p>Just kidding Jason&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Waters</title>
		<link>http://pastoralia.org/church/unbecoming-buzz-agents-for-christ/comment-page-1#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m definitely not advocating the notion of “unconditional love.”

I didn&#039;t think you were but it is a good thing you&#039;re not because - you&#039;re not going to get it!  LOL!

&quot;But there’s a difference between the shared stipulations of a covenant on the one hand, and the concealed intentions of a deception on the other.&quot;

Oh, absolutely.  I totally agree.

As a side note though, I will add - as far as unconditional love is concerned - I personally think the closest we can really come to understanding it is when we look at the love between a parent and their child (unfortunately for some families - love itself is absent, let alone anything resembling love &quot;unconditional&quot;).  Without trying to drag out the hip boots - it&#039;s only when I look at the love I have for my kids and even though I know that as human beings they are fully capable of commiting horrible acts of sin - I would still love them regardless.  It is only then that I catch a glimpse of how much God loves us.  However, I&#039;m sure you both can fully understand where I&#039;m coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m definitely not advocating the notion of “unconditional love.”</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think you were but it is a good thing you&#8217;re not because &#8211; you&#8217;re not going to get it!  LOL!</p>
<p>&#8220;But there’s a difference between the shared stipulations of a covenant on the one hand, and the concealed intentions of a deception on the other.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, absolutely.  I totally agree.</p>
<p>As a side note though, I will add &#8211; as far as unconditional love is concerned &#8211; I personally think the closest we can really come to understanding it is when we look at the love between a parent and their child (unfortunately for some families &#8211; love itself is absent, let alone anything resembling love &#8220;unconditional&#8221;).  Without trying to drag out the hip boots &#8211; it&#8217;s only when I look at the love I have for my kids and even though I know that as human beings they are fully capable of commiting horrible acts of sin &#8211; I would still love them regardless.  It is only then that I catch a glimpse of how much God loves us.  However, I&#8217;m sure you both can fully understand where I&#8217;m coming from.</p>
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